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Build another Hudson server to test patches

We should have a system that auto-patch Wonder on another server, so that we can see if the patches compiles fine and do basic testing to see if it's broken. If it works, we can commit the patch in Wonder.

Using a more widely seen video service for screencasts/podcasts

Evangelism: Use a more widely seen video service for screencasts/podcasts so that a broader group of developers can find them more easily. (A Vimeo channel for example)

Create official community documentation for essential steps in WebObjects installation / development / deployment

I think that one of the big drawbacks in the documentation right now is that there are too many references to historical configurations. It would be helpful to collate step by step documentation for the current stable versions of WebObjects, WOLips, MacOS X and release it as a community-sanctioned pdf.

For example at a minimum it would be helpful to have:

1. "Community Recommended Installation on MacOS X 10.6"
2. "Community Recommended Development Practices (running through Apache, bundle-less builds)"
3. "Community Recommended Deployment Practices"

New people don't need to know the history. They just need to know how they install WebObjects, Wonder, the tools, a database and get going for the current versions. This document set needs to be frozen and rereleased each time a major version change happens (whether Eclipse / WOLips, WebObjects, Wonder (affecting normal workflow) or MacOS X). That way we'll have documents archived for previous versions for those that need them, and straightforward current versions for everyone else coming to the platform.

One click installer using Java Web Start

A one click Java Web Start installer. Just click on a hyperlinked .jnlp file and Java web start downloads the installer which then would install Eclipse, WOLips, WO 5.4.3, jadclipse, jad, latest svn, subclipse, Wonder 54 branch, WO javadocs, set up a new workspace complete with working sets for Wonder frameworks, examples, applications, and tests. 'Advanced' options could be offered, including apache/monitor/wotaskd installation and setup.

Simple D2W JavaApplet to configure a DirectToWeb app

A fixed Direct To Web JavaApplet should be reinstated as a simple way to configure a DirectToWeb app. Rule Modeler is OK for advanced rulemodeling, but is too complicated for beginners with DirectToWeb.

Perhaps inline forms would be easier than an applet. For example, right now, if you hit the D2W link on the debug panel, you see tables at the page level and on property names. Perhaps it would be easy enough to simply provide a form + table instead of just a table. Then you could select the component name from a popup menu or add/remove displayPropertyKeys from the page level form.

Override all WO components and EOF calls in Wonder

We should override all WO components and EOF calls in Wonder, so that it could be easier to move to another implementation. For example, we could later decide that instead of using EOF, we would use Cayenne, but by using calls from Wonder, the APIs in Wonder would talk to Cayenne instead of EOF.

Making Wonder independent from WebObjects is an excellent idea. Maybe it would enable a complete rewrite (one day).

Decide which is the best way to install WO and Eclipse/WOLips

We need to determine what is the best and "supported" way of installing WO and Eclipse/WOLips. Should we use WOInstaller.jar or the .pkg from Apple? Should we use Golipse for installing Eclipse and WOLips? When we figure out the best way, we have to update the wiki and wocommunity.org.

I 100% agree. There should be an official community supported method for installing eclipse / wolips / webobjects / wonder. All other flavours of installing stuff should be removed from the wiki.

As we also want to appeal to existing (Java-)programmers that already have their Eclipse environment set up it would probably make sense to have installation instructions / installers that only install the WO*bits into existing Eclipse.

Case studies on wocommunity.org

We need case studies on wocommunity.org. Something like http://www.apple.com/business/profiles/ should be good, a one-page where people explain how WO is good for their business and how they use it.

New, modern tutorial

We need a long tutorial about Wonder and WebObjects. That tutorial should present how to do a "regular" WO app, a D2W app and REST services built on top of the same model.

I'd be happy to work on that one, provided some people can give me some advice on the stuff I do not understand, and comment. I started with a tutorial about two years ago but stalled because the second chapter should be about DirectToWeb, and I hoped that somehow I could work around RuleModeler until later in the tutorial, but a fixed D2W Applet never materialized. Just let me know if some people are willing to help.

Adding a REST client in ERRest

We need a REST client in ERRest so that we can easily call REST APIs from other sources, and convert the results to EOs if required. A sort of client exists in the RestRoute example, and other code based on Jakarta httpclient was posted on the mailing list. We could take a look at Jersey and JBoss' RestEasy too.

Assemble information regarding scalability of WO apps

Assemble information regarding scalability of WO apps i.e. what software/hardware measures can be used with pros/cons, scalability commandments (like the EOF commandments), code examples to help newbies for concurrency issues, ...

Unit/Selenium tests for the core frameworks

We need unit/Selenium tests in Wonder for core stuff. Examples : doing fetchs with dates, testing prototypes on MySQL, PostgreSQL, H2 and FrontBase, core Ajax functionnality, etc. Those tests would be useful to test patches

Write a WO/Wonder cookbook

I would like to see (and contribute to) a "cookbook" for WO programming tasks. There are existing examples (Ajax Example App) and I think cookbook organization (like the O'Reilly Cookbooks) would help those to be found and highlight needed recipes.

This is something I have been missing myself. I have put such cookbook code snippets into a text file that I regularly consult (yes, even after 9 years). Things like "How do I sort things" or "How do I filter objects", "How do I upload a file" are 1/2/3/4-liners in my reference. These things are trivial once you know them but for the beginner...?
I would gladly like to help here and hand over my snippets.

Better integration with Cocoa and CocoaTouch

Since many WO developers also develop iOS or Mac apps, it would be useful to have better integration between WO and Cocoa/CocoaTouch. One idea would be to generate a Xcode project stub based of an EOModel and REST route, the Xcode project stub would have the necessary code to make REST calls to the WO app.

Community Roadmap: review all those TODO and FIXME comments in Wonder

Wonder source has accumulated many TODO and FIXME comments that should be reviewed if they

a) are obsolete
b) need code to be fixed/tested
c) should have a JIRA created for to be fixed in the near future

Community Roadmap: define a "WOCommunity formatter" for eclipse

Wonder code has been committed by many different people and all those people have different formatting preferences. By defining a general eclipse formatter the code would be cleaner and committing patches would (in the end) only show real code changes and no formatting changes.

Linking the wiki and the Javadoc together

We need a way to link the JavaDoc and the wiki together. It could be special tags in the JavaDoc so that those tags are found, we automatically create a page in the wiki with a link to the JavaDoc.

Localized Javadoc

Would be nice to have a way for Localization Javadoc in Wonder. To Help people make Documentation in other Language too. For my Part about 40% Documentation in japanese is done, but no way to write or share.

Perhaps this could be achieved with html. <p xml:lang="jp">Japanese Docs</p><p xml:lang="en">English Docs</p> Then it's just a stylesheet switch when the language changes.

Japanese stylesheet like
*[xml:lang="en"]

Unknown macro: { display}

For the outputting JavaDoc that is a Solution, but I think there are 2 ways to lookup JavaDoc.
1. JavaDoc itself
2. In Eclipse hover over a Command

What challenges did you face in learning WebObjects?
  • building site from zero
  • I was completely lost in the apis, and i didnt find out the way at first.
  • The main problem is a lack of current, beginner level tutorial information. Almost all the info out there is old, no longer applicable and confusing, or it's aimed at a higher level than the absolute beginner. The documentation is scattered everywhere. There are headings in the Wonder documentation for examples but there are very few examples in the documentation.
  • Understand the logic about it
  • Learn about the WO capacity.
  • dictionaries are a bit hard to understand
What kind of training and/or documentation would have helped you the most?
  • screencasts
  • ready projects
  • video training would have been very appreciated, i think the screecast were a very useful tool for me. I would like to watch actual apps made with webobjects, to help me wide my perspective of everything webobjects can do
  • Examples
  • Videos
What is your wish list for Project Wonder and WOLips?
  • Making WOLips easier for new people (Golipse + installation of WO and Wonder). Command line tools to create apps, especially REST ones.
  • that they continue... andd maybe be more know and accessible accross the world (not only north america)
  • jQuery Ajax framework
  • Eclipse must die. Just kidding .. kinda
  • A cleanroom implementation of webobjects. As for more down to earth wishes, maybe a little better organization of frameworks/packages, but this could be a personal matter or a documentation matter in that there are so many places to look for stuff in Wonder. Of course, this is not necessarily a bad thing.
  • Better maven support. At the very least, it would be nice to be able to launch my projects in the debugger and not have to set the class path each time I hit a breakpoint to view the source. But it's a minor inconvenience.
  • JQuery
  • More efficient Ajax
  • more docs and examples that are shorter and more focused
  • From Wonder, just one thing: serious release engineering. I say this year after year. The received wisdom of tracking the HEAD of the master branch is just not realistic for most businesses. Wonder needs proper release engineering.
  • include support for query
  • A roadmap
  • Have a clear standard (stable version) for project Wonder (make sure the best option for each artefact is clearly identified).
  • better documentation, better clarification what is current, what is old stuff/deprecated. Sometimes the same topic is covered in several places - differently!!
  • move to the Tomcat application server
  • it would be a book about D2W i think that i have not been able to grasp "its greatness". i would like more documentation and examples (or another book) of how to make a successful framework that implements ajax functionality.
  • i like to have the information printed in books and for each of this books i would gladly pay 30~40 dollars.
  • i don't like how we depend on old books that mostly are directed to xcode, i own a copy a practical webobjects but a "starting in webobjects" or webobjects learning-style book is needed too.
  • more global training camps(I'm in mexico and i havent graduated yet from college so taking a flight to canada is not exactly a possibility here)
  • WOBuilder type app
  • more stability of WOLips
  • Love the improvements to documentation that have been made on the wiki. It would be great to see this continue to improve--especially with best practices for integrating/syncing with other systems (especially iOS) through REST services.
  • get javamonitor and wotaskd working on 64-bit windows (javamonitor has issues displaying web resources and wotaskd can't launch the 32-bit SpawnOfWotaskd.exe from a 64-bit jam)
  • modernization of the Ajax frameworks (they need updating and work)
  • Apache Hadoop NoSQL support
  • fix EO model inheritance bugs
  • work on migration system
  • get db downgrades to work
  • better support for index creation and addition of constraints
  • more standardization of components
  • fix EntityModeler support for reverse engineering
  • give EntityModeler the options EOModeler had for rev. engineering existing tables (you could have it auto-generate the class name from the table name instead of just extending EOGenericRecord like it does now)
  • fix the bindings view (take it out of the experimental stage)
  • move rulemodeler into eclipse
  • To see more people regularly committing code, writing documentation and providing help. This seems to be happening recently.
  • Replace more of the core WO frameworks with code in Wonder.
  • Remove depreciated cruft in base frameworks.
  • ERRest templates.
  • ERRest wizard for integration into existing project.
  • Documentation! (synchronization between app instances?)
  • Links from javadoc to wiki for more in depth conversation/examples.
  • Ajax framework based on jQuery
  • Easier deployment
  • more joda integration by default
  • Better Docs
  • Better start up tutorials. Easy to understand Enterprise Objects because it is dificult to understand for new developers.
  • I'd like to see a way to keep CoreData models and EO models in sync. Also a D2Rest from CoreData would be pretty cool.
  • More documentation
  • Documentation that better explains how it all fits together - there are a lot of really cool sounding frameworks, but its often not clear how to use them
  • More code examples. For example, the best learning tool for me was to go to the Ajax Examples, looking at the code samples and components. I learn more from there than just the bare-bone documentation on Ajax alone.
  • Performance issues/improvements: How to improve performance if there are any tips/ hints/ where we could put together a whole chapter there. (EOF, Ajax, etc).
  • an example of integrating WebObjects with iOS, how to communicate from the iPhone app to the WebObjects backend.
  • Best D2W look frameworks possible!
  • Excellent support for iOS REST backends
  • More examples
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